,Hiren Ledford -- though you are going dot on-- wud advise to go a bit slowly , as the subject is too profound & scientific and given the level of understanding of this group, who are deep down in Dvaitva ( duality ) , it might take a lot of time to delve in Advaitya ..
When one has the understanding of up side down Adwaita one ends up misunderstanding whole of the concept of Adwaitic Iswar. I think Abrahamic religious thoughts must revise to correct this error.
When you can't objectify you cannot say he or she.. This means formless that means beyond gender and perception then why you call as he why not she? Bcz you never accept female gender as god..
Good anything I bring up you will say that we cannot question it with our limited understanding so this means you accept that your Allah has made humans in such a way that they can't understand him.
Exactly, we as Muslims have absolutely no qualms when we say we cannot truly know Allah, He created us like that, and we shall know Him only in the hereafter...
This is the reason Hindus are not a statue or idol worshiper but Murti Pujak. There is a great difference in this. I am not going to explain but one can google it and have further knowledge.
In all the religious books you have ever read they are referred to as males
That is what I am asking why formless god have gender this is illogical
Not only that if Allah is formless how can he sit on the throne ?
Welcome to battle ground bhrata..
God takes many forms.. No limits..
Where is it in bible?
One substance many form is far old Hindu advaita theory..
Im half buddhist
Buddha is based on zeroness theory anyway if you so then you better know Buddhism rejects the notion of a creator deity. Then how yahova is creator?
Mike Gould ji half buddhist...??? does not make any sense.
so how is he male then ?
so how is she female ?
By creating them.. God becomes them.
Nice .
mike I know you will come you never disappointed but let's see any Moslem come..
Anyway One substance many form is far old Hindu advaita theory..
,Hiren Ledford -- though you are going dot on-- wud advise to go a bit slowly , as the subject is too profound & scientific and given the level of understanding of this group, who are deep down in Dvaitva ( duality ) , it might take a lot of time to delve in Advaitya ..
Actually they always claims formless god so I asked them at least logically they can give ans.
When one has the understanding of up side down Adwaita one ends up misunderstanding whole of the concept of Adwaitic Iswar. I think Abrahamic religious thoughts must revise to correct this error.
Allah is beyond gender, the Creator of the universe does not need to conform to our limited knowledge
Then why all peoples acknowledge allah as HE, this is illogical
Not illogical, just easier to grasp...
Same logic can be used that Allah is a she it is easier to grasp.
If that makes you happy, suppose you live in a matriarchal society..
Indeed Bhandari ji we can assume anything for formless subject it can be anything..
Its only our universally patriarchal society which allows us to refer to Allah as He
When you can't objectify you cannot say he or she.. This means formless that means beyond gender and perception then why you call as he why not she? Bcz you never accept female gender as god..
So if he has no form how will he sit on the throne on judgement day ?
These are all metaphors,.... Allah is not a bearded old man on throne (nauthibillaah)
So then why describe a throne then? And if Allah is formless how will you see him ?
Like I saw before, our limited understanding cannot grasp the true essence of Allah, metaphors only make it easier for us .
Good anything I bring up you will say that we cannot question it with our limited understanding so this means you accept that your Allah has made humans in such a way that they can't understand him.
Exactly, we as Muslims have absolutely no qualms when we say we cannot truly know Allah, He created us like that, and we shall know Him only in the hereafter...
If they're formless how can they manifest in reality?
Right question
Going in circle, here...
.....like asking the One who created the universe from nothing what is possible and impossible for Him .
May be you understanding Allah to be formless might be a flawed human understanding.
Are you even listening to yourself ?... With all due respect...
This is the reason Hindus are not a statue or idol worshiper but Murti Pujak. There is a great difference in this. I am not going to explain but one can google it and have further knowledge.
does this op (debating gender of virtual avatars) really matter?
It's matters bcz in these group peoples sees only religious side of religion not philosophical.
Hiren Ledford So is arceus a female or a male pokemon, after all it created a universe so it's a god to, not?
I never seen pokemon there is no creation..
Hiren Ledford youùve never seen a god either.. The rest can be reapplied
Who care god exist or not