Those who believe in freewill and prayers: Does everything in this reality occur because of freewill? If yes, what's the point of praying? If no, when do you know which one's freewill and which one's influenced by god?
God has unlimited free will, and he gives us limited free will.
Purusha Rivera: If it is limited, it has constraints which goes against freewill. Can you define freewill?
ajay A glass of water also has limits, but it is still a glass of water. The ocean also has limits, but it is still the ocean. Similarly, your free will is limited, but it is still free will. Humans have limited free will like the ocean, animals have limited free will like a glass of water. God's free will is unlimited, unlike a glass of water or even an ocean of water. His free will has absolutely no limits. God has given us the free will to change our desires, nothing more, and nothing less. God is the one who actualizes our desires.
Purusha Rivera: Bad analogy. A glass of water by definition is a glass of water and it has a limit. In your comment you clearly differentiated between limited and limitless freewill. Plus, you haven't defined freewill yet.
Ajay Root The analogy is a good one, and you have failed to prove that it wasn't a good analogy. I am not Noah Webster. If you don't know the definition of free will, then you need to stop using the phrase until you become educated on its definition. If you do know its definition, then stop asking me. Free will is by definition free will, and yours is limited. God's free will is unlimited.
Easy - if something good happens it was gods will. If something bad happens it was free will.
Roy Phelps: I hope that was a sarcastic answer
Of course it was. But it is the answer I get when I ask religious this question.
God gives u free will & so u lead ur life as u wish.. İt was ur free will... Bt when u need some help it was god will.. At least we always need help from god.. As example we work hard as we wish bt how much we get result it depents on god wish...
Andhokarer Hankins: How do you determine when you should exercise and when you should pray instead? If you always need help from god, that by definition goes against freewill.
How can u say that? I am saying about our God, not our gvmnt or office boss.. He know everything about ur life, mind, pulse & all... How can u spend a moment without his help? Ur brathe is continue by his ordar.. & he always help u bt he never spoil ur free will.. Then exercise & pray both is so important to establish ur free will..
Andhokarer Hankins: Let me ask you this. If I have control over your actions, do you have absolute freedom?
God has no control ovar ur freedom..
Only God has a control ovar ur life..
^^ but.... God influences others to make shit happen for you!!! What about their free will?
we humans all free will and we are responsible for all our acts according to judaism, for example, humans have the free will to do whatever they want, but given that god is omniscient then he knows what they will choose to do. That belief was voiced by the pharisee rabbi akiva about 2000 years ago. in christianity the problem of free will reached its climax in the middle ages, thomas aquinas (a catholic saint and philosopher) believed that everything was predestined and that god laid the paths for humans, but humans have the freewill to choose for themselves which path to take but what about islam? Such questions about free will have been greatly discussed by an islamic philosophical school named the mutazilis (المعتزلة) which reached its zenith during the abbasid caliphate (about 150 years after the death of the prophet muhammad) the mutzaili view of freewill is roughly the same as that of pharisees: They believed that humans created for themselves their paths and that they do have complete free will. And concerning that god created that ability to exercise free will in humans then god's will is, indirectly, also present in the world. That's why according to them god is not some sadistic deity who sets programmed robots on earth and then punishes them for what they have done: But according to that view these robots were given the programming languages and god told them to set the codes they want and then he'll judge them according to their work. however, there's now a staunch surrounding the name of the mutazilis because when some abbasid caliphates embraced their beliefs they set up inquisition trials in which they coerced muslims scholars into embracing their beliefs or they will be punished severely otherwise (ahmad ibn hanbal - one of the founders of the main 4 schools of islamic jurisprudence, was among those heavily persecuted under such policies) however when the influence of the mutzailis faded two schools emerged which merged between their teachings and orthodox "salafist" beliefs: The asha'ari school and the matridi school followers of the matridi school developed a view on free will which was later adopted by thomas aquinas whose view on freewill we mentioned before. but at the end of the day, such questions on freewill are useless, we just have to work on ourselves and do our best to be really ethical and do good as long as we're alive (whether we're muslims, christians, jews, buddhists, hindus agnostics or atheists)
TL; DR Could you give a shorter response?
to cut a long story short, the mainstream view is that god created the ability to exercise freewill inside humans without interfering in their choices but at the same he knows what they will choose for themselves because he's omniscient
for more details and a historical overview of different views on freewill in abrahamic religions you can read the comment whenever you want to
Eslam Craft: If god knows all that is about to happen that means all that is about to happen is somehow fixed. That negates freewill.
because no matter how much you talk about exercising freewill, what is gonna happen is gonna happen
Free will is vital to a healthy relationship with God. Are our children slaves? Do we dominate their whole personality and life as parents? Do we take all their creativity away and control every thing they think and do? We don't if we Love them
God cannot control people? Then why pray that you get that job or get approved for a home loan? What is the point if god cannot control people?
Free will is an illusion.
No one does anything without influence, either from their current environment or past experience.
The lack of knowledge of what is the outcome of death is a main fear factor for most people.
If we all knew what was beyond! How we view our lives would drastically change
Not all know. Only a few.
Does God also have freewill or does he have to listen to your prayers? Furthermore, does God have to do life reviews? Does God have to monitor who you have sex with? Does God have to watch your choice in clothing and speech? Maybe God has lost interest entirely.... Can God just vanish?
When did Pakistan qualify as an civilized nation...
Every thing we ask we ask after we say in his will.
Freewill is to choose between Good and bad.
Free will is the freedom of choice. Concepts of good and bad, right or wrong are all relative in this world and has no relation with the freedom of choice.
That makes no sense
It's the basic definition of free will.
No it's not I don't know who taught you that but it was not Jesus. Good and evil exist and Our decisions matter. To say there is no good or evil is to deny free will. The choice is the purest definition Free Will.
Please read correctly. To be relative doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It only means that it not an absolute.
Relative to growth it is If you take it away No growth